The entry fee, admittedly, is minimal only $20. But charging a commission on top of the entry fee seems gratuitous. Yes, the commission is a lower 20% and not the usual 50% . . . but the Bazaar guidelines state that the artist is then responsible for installing (bring your own tools and materials!) and selling the work (you need to be there from 8am to 8pm--you can't leave or ask someone to fill in for you!) Lyons Wier has little to lose from this approach since they're shoving most of the gallery's normal responsibilities/duties right back on the artist.
Two things bother me most about this plan: 1.) The artist takes on the role of gallerist/dealer and pays for the privilege of doing so. This smacks of the vanity gallery approach. 2.) Lyons Wier is essentially abdicating responsibility for anything that could be considered studied, coherent gallery program. First come, first serve, the highest selling artist gets a solo exhibition regardless of whether or not the work is suitable for whatever vision they (Lyons Wier and whoever) might have possessed for the gallery. (I understand that the art business is, at bottom, a business but this move essentially pisses on the traditional role of gallerist.)
The Art Bazaar is a bad move. It is raw and rapacious without even the slightest effort to pretend otherwise. It is a tacky maneuver intended to cash in on the inherent hard-working nature of artists, not to mention our inherent career desperation. Ostensibly, it could be argued that it offers some exposure to the artists and perhaps it could foster a sense of community amongst the participants. (Boy, I'm really reaching here, aren't I?) But the benefits to this approach are minimal at best. Avoid it, I say.
(Full disclosure: I am posting this comment of several blogs who've touched on this topic. Please forgive me if the sentiment isn't entirely unique to one blog.)
“Shiny, shiny, shiny.” Love this – funny and entertaining! Here is a possible entr'acte for you. Have you given a thought to filling this out and sending it and more like it to magazines?
One point I missed. How would you go about dealing with the kibitzer who wants to "discuss" your work?
"Picasso knock-off prints do very well, as do photographs of NYC landmarks. Small paintings of dogs and flowers are also great sellers, as long as you put in enough consecutive weekends to build up a following. "
George--kibitzers are a godsend! They rarely buy any art themselves, it is true, but they provide a safe zone for shy potential buyers to sneak in under cover of distraction and stare at their object of desire for the 10 or 15 minutes it may take them to make up their mind.
Few people want to stand there under the gaze of an eager, desperate artist who needs that forty bucks to pay for groceries.
Is there a magazine you'd like to suggest which might be interested in this sort of thing? Preferably one with which you have a personal connection, and can offer a recommendation?
Bwah! I have been thinking about cat portraiture because it seems to combine 2 things I love - painting and cats - and 1 thing I need, money. Might be an enjoyable way to make a buck!
Sorry, but I have no personal knowledge, experience or recommendations to offer. I remember decades ago having read several artist magazines (I actually made an attempt at trying my hand at painting – watercolors no less). Perhaps one of them:
Contact data and submission information should be available on line. The readers of these magazines are usually artistic tyros/amateurs and your insights and observations should be of interest to them and therefore the magazines themselves. Sorry I couldn’t be more help but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t build up a small portfolio of articles. You could always take parts of them of give them a tryout on your blog.
BTW Pretty Lady: Are you an expert on shilling that fake Picasso junk & giving advice about selling dog portraits to SoHo tourists because that's what you do??
I would just offer this small bit of advice: If a person wants to make money go out get experience or a trade and find a job. If you want to be a painter or artist work hard, gather support and pay your dues. That's how it works. And it's not about making money...
BTW Pretty Lady: Are you an expert on shilling that fake Picasso junk & giving advice about selling dog portraits to SoHo tourists because that's what you do??
Anon: Type the word 'irony' into Google. Or else check my bio and see what kind of work I do. And don't be such a jackass next time.
I am a famous artist. The only advice I would offer - anonymously mind you - is to believe in yourself and your art completely and to never ever waiver even when the chips are down. COMPLETE AND TOTAL FAITH.
Good information pretty lady! We are two artists living in the Washington DC area and have often contemplated driving up to New York to try our luck on city streets... your article was well written: engaging and informative. Question: would we need a NYC tax id number? Thank you and best of luck! Claudia
Darlings, where to start? Sometimes I feel as though I have lived a thousand lives in this one, dewy and unlined though my complexion may be. To Tell All may be to intimidate; thus I maintain, at most times, a discreet reserve. But here I share my musings, perhaps revealing the secret to my exquisite poise and charm.
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Regarding the Lyons Wier Art Bazaar:
The entry fee, admittedly, is minimal only $20. But charging a commission on top of the entry fee seems gratuitous. Yes, the commission is a lower 20% and not the usual 50% . . . but the Bazaar guidelines state that the artist is then responsible for installing (bring your own tools and materials!) and selling the work (you need to be there from 8am to 8pm--you can't leave or ask someone to fill in for you!) Lyons Wier has little to lose from this approach since they're shoving most of the gallery's normal responsibilities/duties right back on the artist.
Two things bother me most about this plan: 1.) The artist takes on the role of gallerist/dealer and pays for the privilege of doing so. This smacks of the vanity gallery approach. 2.) Lyons Wier is essentially abdicating responsibility for anything that could be considered studied, coherent gallery program. First come, first serve, the highest selling artist gets a solo exhibition regardless of whether or not the work is suitable for whatever vision they (Lyons Wier and whoever) might have possessed for the gallery. (I understand that the art business is, at bottom, a business but this move essentially pisses on the traditional role of gallerist.)
The Art Bazaar is a bad move. It is raw and rapacious without even the slightest effort to pretend otherwise. It is a tacky maneuver intended to cash in on the inherent hard-working nature of artists, not to mention our inherent career desperation. Ostensibly, it could be argued that it offers some exposure to the artists and perhaps it could foster a sense of community amongst the participants. (Boy, I'm really reaching here, aren't I?) But the benefits to this approach are minimal at best. Avoid it, I say.
(Full disclosure: I am posting this comment of several blogs who've touched on this topic. Please forgive me if the sentiment isn't entirely unique to one blog.)
PL,
“Shiny, shiny, shiny.” Love this – funny and entertaining! Here is a possible entr'acte for you. Have you given a thought to filling this out and sending it and more like it to magazines?
One point I missed. How would you go about dealing with the kibitzer who wants to "discuss" your work?
Pretty,
Great post...
"Picasso knock-off prints do very well, as do photographs of NYC landmarks. Small paintings of dogs and flowers are also great sellers, as long as you put in enough consecutive weekends to build up a following. "
Nice one...
Sunil
George--kibitzers are a godsend! They rarely buy any art themselves, it is true, but they provide a safe zone for shy potential buyers to sneak in under cover of distraction and stare at their object of desire for the 10 or 15 minutes it may take them to make up their mind.
Few people want to stand there under the gaze of an eager, desperate artist who needs that forty bucks to pay for groceries.
Is there a magazine you'd like to suggest which might be interested in this sort of thing? Preferably one with which you have a personal connection, and can offer a recommendation?
Sunil--
This information is all literally, verifiably, experientially true. Dog portraits in particular are a potential gold mine.
Bwah! I have been thinking about cat portraiture because it seems to combine 2 things I love - painting and cats - and 1 thing I need, money. Might be an enjoyable way to make a buck!
"Shiny shiny shiny" -- I love it.
PL,
Sorry, but I have no personal knowledge, experience or recommendations to offer. I remember decades ago having read several artist magazines (I actually made an attempt at trying my hand at painting – watercolors no less). Perhaps one of them:
http://painting.about.com/od/productreviews/tp/tpartmagazine.htm
Contact data and submission information should be available on line. The readers of these magazines are usually artistic tyros/amateurs and your insights and observations should be of interest to them and therefore the magazines themselves. Sorry I couldn’t be more help but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t build up a small portfolio of articles. You could always take parts of them of give them a tryout on your blog.
This story is not funny and pretty lady is not pretty.
She seems to be all about truthin' so...just sayin'!
BTW Pretty Lady: Are you an expert on shilling that fake Picasso junk & giving advice about selling dog portraits to SoHo tourists because that's what you do??
I would just offer this small bit of advice: If a person wants to make money go out get experience or a trade and find a job. If you want to be a painter or artist work hard, gather support and pay your dues. That's how it works. And it's not about making money...
fyi: Correction I meant to say in first post that Pretty Lady's advice is not pretty; not her. Didn't intend to impugn her personally.
BTW Pretty Lady: Are you an expert on shilling that fake Picasso junk & giving advice about selling dog portraits to SoHo tourists because that's what you do??
Anon: Type the word 'irony' into Google. Or else check my bio and see what kind of work I do. And don't be such a jackass next time.
I am a famous artist. The only advice I would offer - anonymously mind you - is to believe in yourself and your art completely and to never ever waiver even when the chips are down. COMPLETE AND TOTAL FAITH.
Anon 6/28: I believe in myself just fine. I no longer believe in art, however.
Enjoy your fame. There are some things I'm not willing to sacrifice in order to get it.
Good food for thought here... It is interesting to read comments.
Good information pretty lady! We are two artists living in the Washington DC area and have often contemplated driving up to New York to try our luck on city streets... your article was well written: engaging and informative. Question: would we need a NYC tax id number?
Thank you and best of luck!
Claudia
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